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post Apr 15 2006, 07:03 PM
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when obi-wan and greivous first start the duel, obi-wan cuts off two.. cont em two.. of general greivouses arm! how!!!! i mean greivous has FOUR arms!
then when obi-wan is hanging over the ledge, he force pulls the gun two himself and kills greivous, cliging to the ledge with one hand.


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post Apr 15 2006, 07:15 PM
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He did it because is Obi-Wan!!! The reason of why he was in charge of the mission is because Mace realized that the only Jedi in the whole galaxy, capable of kick the metallic back of Grievous was Obi-Wan. His lightsaber technique was impecable, possible the best defense of the whole Order and also, Obi has the wits ans cunning to improvise in battle.


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post Apr 22 2006, 07:27 PM
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He had the patience to wait until his enemy's weak point revealed itself. That's the problem with being offensive.


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post Apr 23 2006, 02:11 AM
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The reason he cut off 2 of grievous' arms is 'cos grievous was played by an actual person- like gollum, so Mc Gregor would've een facing a person, but blocking attacks that didn't exist
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post Oct 13 2009, 04:50 PM
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Well it is a little odd. General Grievous has four arms to defend himself, and still he gets 2 of them cut off in a few seconds. And he still can't even dodge or deflect a blaster bolt with 2 arms left. If you've seen General Grievous fighting in the clone wars animated 2d series, with perfect coordination, killing of multiple enemies at a time, it's very unlikely that he can get 2 of his arms cut off that fast. Even by Obi-Wan.


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post Oct 16 2009, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (Zideric @ Oct 13 2009, 09:50 AM) *
Well it is a little odd. General Grievous has four arms to defend himself, and still he gets 2 of them cut off in a few seconds. And he still can't even dodge or deflect a blaster bolt with 2 arms left. If you've seen General Grievous fighting in the clone wars animated 2d series, with perfect coordination, killing of multiple enemies at a time, it's very unlikely that he can get 2 of his arms cut off that fast. Even by Obi-Wan.


Well, the fact remains that Obi-Wan could, and did sever Grievous' 2 robotic arms rather quickly. In the grand scheme of Star Wars, it is absolute canon, so one cannot really compare the scene with an animated series.

Regardless, I consider it highly likely that Obi-Wan was that skilled. Since he later defeats Vader on Mustafar, he has to be the best swordsman the Jedi have, next to Master Yoda.


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post Dec 25 2009, 02:42 PM
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Yea Obi Wan is indeed a powerful jedi, he used a technique of defending until he can find a weakness and strike grevious.

and grevious was badly injured since his time in the animated series, mace windu did cripple him so his breathing worsened thus making him weaker, and he was to full of himself, also knowing he was weak which is why he busted out all 4 arms instead of progressing to them. his overconfidence and belief in his power came to his defeat.

plus obi wans just a bamf


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post Jan 7 2010, 09:23 PM
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I think this is one of those events in the Star Wars films where we must look back at an earlier film in the saga... in this case The Phantom Menace. When Obi-Wan Kenobi is just a Padawan he is the only Jedi to have bested a Sith Lord (Darth Maul) and a Sith Lord using a double-blade lightsaber (which Obi-Wan cuts in two). Even his own master, Qui-Gon Jinn, could not best Maul - yet Obi-Wan beats him in style by severing Maul's lightsaber AND leaping over Maul to slice him in half (this is also the reason why Anakin could not beat Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith as Anakin was trying to pull the same move that Obi-Wan used against Maul and Obi-Wan is hardly going to be beaten by his own move).

Thus with Obi-Wan, as a Padawan, defeating Maul (who, by using a double-blade lightsaber is in effect using two lightsabers - an image returned to in Attack of the Clones when Anakin uses two lightsabers against Dooku but couldn't beat Dooku*) rather than Qui-Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master, the film establishes Obi-Wan's ability as one the the best, if not the best, swordsman around. Grievous's four arms and four lightsabers do not present such a problem for Obi-Wan - by removing two arms quickly in the fight, ie cutting Grievous's number of weapons in half, we are, in effect, watching a replay of Obi-Wan's earlier duel with Maul.



*Although I have argued that The Phantom Menace establishes Obi-Wan as a great swordsman, it can also be argued that Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, set up Obi-Wan as being a sucker for Force push moves, especially when used by Dooku!
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post Jan 12 2010, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (Zee Zee @ Jan 7 2010, 01:23 PM) *
I think this is one of those events in the Star Wars films where we must look back at an earlier film in the saga... in this case The Phantom Menace. When Obi-Wan Kenobi is just a Padawan he is the only Jedi to have bested a Sith Lord (Darth Maul) and a Sith Lord using a double-blade lightsaber (which Obi-Wan cuts in two). Even his own master, Qui-Gon Jinn, could not best Maul - yet Obi-Wan beats him in style by severing Maul's lightsaber AND leaping over Maul to slice him in half (this is also the reason why Anakin could not beat Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith as Anakin was trying to pull the same move that Obi-Wan used against Maul and Obi-Wan is hardly going to be beaten by his own move).
Thus with Obi-Wan, as a Padawan, defeating Maul (who, by using a double-blade lightsaber is in effect using two lightsabers - an image returned to in Attack of the Clones when Anakin uses two lightsabers against Dooku but couldn't beat Dooku*) rather than Qui-Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master, the film establishes Obi-Wan's ability as one the the best, if not the best, swordsman around. Grievous's four arms and four lightsabers do not present such a problem for Obi-Wan - by removing two arms quickly in the fight, ie cutting Grievous's number of weapons in half, we are, in effect, watching a replay of Obi-Wan's earlier duel with Maul.


Very good observations, it all adds to the fact that obi wan is awesome! Thanks


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post Jan 19 2010, 03:34 AM
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The anwer lies in the DVD comentary, Lucas admits they couldn't figure out the fighting style to employ with Grevious and they desided to fudge it a bit by cutting off grevious's extra arms. Just one of those things in movies used to avoid an issue that hasn't a simple solution.


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